grunge, um flash mob na História?

Vince Neilstein do MetalSucks pergunta "What the hell is grunge, anyway?", e faz um comparativo do termo com o alternative.

It seems that the only thing all of these bands really had in common was “rock music that came out in the early to mid ’90s that wasn’t metal.” What other explanation is there? The minute mainstream media starts classifying bands as “alternative,” those bands, and the genre as a whole, cease to be alternative.

trago o comentário que fiz pra cá - porque concordo com ele em enxergar o grunge mais como um movimento - restrito, mas forte a ponto de reverberar rapidamente pelo globo, e de rápida extinção e consumo - do que um estilo musical.

I say this - grunge was a local movement that grew pretty big, and vanished pretty quickly. First wave of the movement got us here at Brazil at 1992 either - we had local MTV since a year back, and we saw - me included - long hair and flannel shirts *and garage bands* coming out of everywhere.

and I agree with you cause I tend to look grunge more like a movement, almost like a flash mob in social History, that gathered the alternative “meaning of music” and concentered the power of the kids to form a band, stand up for the music and reject what was established. In this aspect grunge music is really made only by a few albums (as you can easily say earlier records from Soundgarden and Nirvana, or later from Pearl Jam, are not grunge). but left a legacy in society that is bigger than the dozen albums that can be fitted definitely in the genre.

In what grunge bands are concerned, I’d say that Alice in Chains is the most important band of the genre. Nirvana, Soundgarden and even Pearl Jam drawed elements found in AIC’s music. It was not Kurt’s death that buried grunge; it was Layne’s.

To me, grunge as music started with Temple of the Dog and ended with Mad Season.

As for alternative, I have to say it is a pretty good label when used by listeners, and even independent labels - but loses all its meaning when industry uses it. I still tag many bands alternative in last.fm these days - for bands that passed out without knowing big media, or those still in the not-mainstream way of making rock. I wouldn’t say fuck alternative - I say fuck big players using a tag that only has a meaning from listeners point of view

porque ele termina o post dizendo 'fuck alternative', que alternative é um rótulo estragado pela indústria (e logo surgiu o 'alterna metal/nu metal, lembrar), mas eu, nesse caso, o vejo mais como um estilo de música do que um identificador de intenções. o alternative tem mais relevância musical, mais estrada e mais legado; formou um gênero lá atrás com as cruzas de Slint e Husker Dü. não é o rótulo que deve ser combatido, e sim seu mau uso.

a seção de música de Bereteando se transforma, em breve, em um blog independente. sugestões de nome? se bereteando fosse música, como se chamaria? (eu sei que é uma pergunta difícil. depois de tantos dias de quebração de cabeça já penso que não há resposta! se falassemos alemão eu juntaria tudo numa nova palavra. mas se sua sugestão for aprovada, você ganha um dinossauro autografado deste blog.)